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Jesus Christ be praised!

>>24374 Forever and ever.

Can you later on report what the preach was about? What is the current time in the church year? It's so weird, that Jesus is born in December and dies already in Spring. I have no clue what the rest of the year is going on at church.

Make sure you don't go to a church in which the stone hath been sullied by iron tools.

Christcucks will be the death of Europe. No doubt the robed pederast preaching at you today will tell you that you need to accept millions of Nigerian Christians because muh persecution.

>>24390 No shit last time I went to catholic mass it was full of browns and the priests homily was about refuggers. I haven't been in years, I'll just do my best to pray and live right.

>>24378 Today is the last day of the church year, Sunday of Christ the King. The sermon was based on the gospel that was read today (Lk 23,35-43) and on Christ's king nature, he explained how the crucifixion (which is at first glance so unfitting for a king) and Christ being the King works together, that we should be like the one crucified criminal that repented and Jesus talked to to enter his kingdom and so on. It was rather nice. He closed the sermon with this beautiful Silesian prayer: "Jesus, dir leb ich, Jesus, dir stern ich (...)"

>>24392 How dare the priest talk about compassion with the less fortunate? Jesus would never do this.

>>24408 At the end of the Holy Mass, the priest mentioned the Nigerian school children and teachers that were abducted from a Catholic school recently, he included them in his blessing and our prayers. I hope they won't get hurt.

>>24408 Spend a fraction of the money in their countries and the problems are fixed it's not even up for debate at this point, if you really care - bringing them here is pissing in the ocean. >but das imperialism

>>24408 so it's a suicide pact (for white people)?

>>24419 What were you trying to achieve by replying to that guy?

>>24408 Compassion is good, socialism is bad. Simple as.

>>24601 How's that possible when Jesus was a socialist?

>>24602 Did you hallucinate that?

>>24604 Oh right, he taxed the poor, he said they have to pull themselves up by the bootstraps, he told the lepers that he's no charity and it's their fault they have leprosy and he famously said >Is it hard for a camel to go through the eye of a needle? It is even harder for someone who is poor to enter God’s kingdom! Oh, and he invited all those traders/capitalists into the temple.

>>24605 None of that makes him a socialist though, just an anti"capitalist", although that concept didn't even exist back then in the first place. If anything, Jesus was an anarchist.

>>24605 You have no idea what you are talking about, kek. >>24607 >If anything, Jesus was an anarchist. True, but in general assigning Jesus a political stance is missing the point.

>>24608 >assigning Jesus a political stance is missing the point. Then why did you bring politics into the holy thread?

jesus loved taxes, abortion, pot, and economic migrants. to not vote left is to reject his message

>>24609 I'm making a point about compassion. Compassion is good when it's genuine, if it's compulsory it's no compassion at all. Furthermore, many people love to be "compassionate" towards strangers, especially in the form of donating money. The more impersonal, the better. This doesn't look like compassion either, but more like a sort of atonement for the "more fortunate" towards the "less fortunate". If the only dimension someone cares about is economy, he is lost in the first place. Finally, I really dislike it when society designates some groups as worthy of compassion and everyone else a member of the privileged class. You can't tell what goes on in people's mind, you can suffer even if you have relative material comfort. This may or may not be what the Aussie Bernd's priest was hinting at, but I understand his frustration regardless, especially since many "refugees" are no refugees at all, just economic migrants. This has been my ted talk on the matter, pls like and subscribe.

>>24611 It's impossible to say how Jesus would react to a socialist system since they didn't exist in his time. The closest we could get to is when he encouraged rich nobles to give away all their wealth for the benefit of society and the poor. A functioning socialist system would operate in a similar manner. Jesus encouraged charity and said that the way to provide charity is to be sincere and not expect something in return. The idea that someone should not give charity because they might not sincerely want to give their wealth away is a stretch, Jesus probably would not agree to that.

>>24612 taxes are theft. if god bothered to think about humanity he nuke the planet not pick a political ideology

>>24612 The idea that charity should not be given because it is compulsory misses the point. Compulsory charity follows Jesus's message because it isn't being done for a benefit or to feel good about one's self. Lets be honest here. Non compulsory charity is done for a benefit or to feel good about ones self. There is simply too much need in the world and too little resources to always be charitable. Humans restrict charity except when there is an emotional response or a benefit, even if its a religious benefit or to simply feel good about ones self. Compulsory charity is the only charity that fulfills Jesus's message. With compulsory charity, there is no feeling good about ones self or benefit other than the benefit of others. The idea that one should be able to pick and choose their charity based on how they feel and how it benefits them goes against his message.

>>24612 >It's impossible to say how Jesus would react to a socialist system since they didn't exist in his time. It's impossible if you don't understand Christ's message. Hint: Nothing he says is about what you should do. It's rather how you should be. >>24614 >The idea that charity should not be given because it is compulsory misses the point. The idea is that genuinely believing will change your priorities and instill genuine compassion. At the bare minimum. >Compulsory charity follows Jesus's message because it isn't being done for a benefit or to feel good about one's self. Insanity, please read the Gospels.

>>24616 >Hint: Nothing he says is about what you should do. It's rather how you should be. Be turning the other cheek, be loving another, be giving to the one who asks you, don't be turning away from those who want to borrow from you. You're right, nothing Jesus said is about things you should or shouldn't do, it's all about how you should be.

>>24617 If you go by the pop culture version of Christianity, then yes.

>>24618 I'm going by the Bible. It's the most printed book in the world, so I guess you could call it popular culture. What's the hipster version of Jesus?

>>24618 leftist and atheist like to play verbal games, they dont really think people who reject jesus will go to hell. just silly things like jesus was brown and jesus was commie. there's actually a whole book of dos and donts removing the need for speculation, at least attacking that directly wouldnt be intellectually dishonest

>>24620 >I'm going by the Bible Did you read it or you're just quoting bits and pieces you absorbed from media?

>>24622 I had years of Sunday school and religion classes in primary, secondary and high school. I admit I didn't read it cover to cover though, there are a lot of gaps in boring books like Numeri and the acts of the apostles. I did read the four gospels though. What I quoted was among the most mainstream stuff though, the things you hear every other Sunday in Sunday school. But again, what does hipster Jesus tell us about whether to help refugees if it's not the sermon on the mount? No, I won't use the Good Samaritan, that's way too simple, since it's a direct answer to "you say love your neighbour, who's my neighbour?" Also, it's pretty mainstream as well, even if many people don't know the context.

>>24616 ... Jesus literally said all rich people will go to hell. "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." Compulsory charity will save rich people from hell. The idea that you can keep your wealth because you want it and still go to heaven is silly. Christianity isn't about feeling good about one's self and always being forgiven. It is about empathy and the benefit of others. To refuse compulsory charity is to lack empathy.

>>24623 Christ commands two things: 1) To believe in God with mind, body and soul. 2) To love one another. Everything else comes down from these two. In fact, I argue the second comes down from the first. If you love God, and people are made in the image of God, then it's natural to love others. The behaviors you listed then become second nature, not something forced upon you (or forced on your true self by your rational self). The difference between Christianity and the other desert cults is that Christ offers a path to become similar to God, while Judaism and Islam are more about adhering to a code of conduct. >>24624 >Jesus literally said all rich people will go to hell. But why? Where do the rich man's priorities lie? Could it be that the rich man will go to hell because he values the wrong things? And the people who would institute compulsory charity, what do they value? Wouldn't you have to commit violence at some point, to force people to give charity? Do you honestly think this is coherent with Christ's other teachings?