>>24171
> relied on Russian fossil fuels
Germany is (was) an industrialized country that can't just switch off when it's cold and dark. Germany needs gas peakers to keep the lights on. Without renewables, the market for gas would be much smaller in Germany.
>ran down your nuclear power
Clouds cover the sun in minutes. Wind rises and falls in minutes. Nuclear power plants can not follow such load curves. They literally take hours to go from low load to full load.
> Other countries
Which other countries? Switzerland? Sweden? Austria? They can use hydro. Germany is too flat and too densely populated for that.
The opposite is true. The cost of electricity in other countries near Germany reaches spectacular peaks because Germany selfishly uses their grids to stabilize its own grid.
Prices reached peaks of 450 öre in Sweden, because of Germans. I hope the Swedes make their threats come true and cut off Germany. Power outages are just what Germans need to make them accept reality.
It's highly unfair that foreigners need to pay .4€ per kilowatt hour just because they live next to a country full of deluded idiots.
>>24172
The opposite of everything you say is true. The cost usually estimated for renewable energy is far below the true cost in a high-renewable scenario. The cost estimates usually use LCOE, which is levelized cost of energy. But LCOE does not take into account the additional cost accrued by installing peaker plants or grid-level-storage, which would not even be necessary without renewables. In Germany, gas peakers are blamed for high cost. But guess what: if Germany didn't have renewables, there would be no need for so many gas peakers.
I think the argument of 'cheap' renewables, while ignoring the cost of of storage/peakers, is mainly made by de-growthers out of sheer dishonesty. They want enough people to go along, and they know that once the economy has been destroyed, it is not coming back and everyone will just be poor a.f forever. They want this, because it's so enviro green and because they think Germans need to be punished for being too white still and too rich still, while there are poor niggers in Africa. They can't make the niggers rich and white, so they need to make Germany colored and poor, to create 'justice'.
> hydrogen
Another lie. Electrolyzers and fuel cells have terrible efficiency. They are also expensive and would be rubbing at full power only very, very few hours. In fact, they'd be running at all for maybe a few weeks out of the year. High price investment goods with low efficiency that are rarely used are horribly expensive. How come you do not know that? So you know nothing at all about technology or economics?